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Spousal Support

Spousal Support

Orange County Alimony Attorney: Understanding Temporary vs. Permanent Spousal Support

Spousal support is intended to try and help the party with less income maintain the prior marital lifestyle during and after a divorce, to the extent possible. In doing so, the Court will typically order the higher wage-earning spouse to pay a portion of their earnings to the “disadvantaged” spouse, either on a temporary or permanent basis, depending largely on the length of the marriage and the needs of the disadvantaged spouse.

Let’s be honest – spousal support fights can get ugly fast. Nobody wants to pay it, and the person getting it usually thinks it should be more. But here’s the thing: there are actual rules the court has to follow, even if neither side likes the result.

How the Numbers Work

In its simplest terms, spousal support is based primarily on the gross income of the parties, which is a person’s income before taxes are taken out. That amount is then adjusted up or down depending on other “factors” in your case. For example, if the parties own a house, then the party who is paying the mortgage gets an adjustment for payment of the property taxes. If a party pays for health insurance, required union dues, or child / spousal support monies for a prior relationship, then other adjustments are made.

The computer programs judges use for temporary support – Dissomaster and Xspouse – spit out numbers that often shock people. We’ve had clients see their calculation and immediately assume there’s been a mistake. Usually there hasn’t been. These programs just crunch numbers without considering whether the result makes practical sense for real life.

In the end, using various means, a support order is entered and the Court may, upon the request of the spouse who is going to receive the support, grant an “earnings assignment order.” This order requires that the support amounts be withheld directly from the paycheck of the spouse who has been ordered to pay support. The monies that are collected are then paid to the supported spouse, often directly from the payor spouse’s payroll company.

This wage garnishment setup actually works pretty well most of the time. It takes the drama out of monthly payments and ensures the money gets where it’s supposed to go.

Temporary vs. Permanent Support – They’re Different Animals

Usually, early in the divorce proceedings, one of the parties will ask the Court to order “guideline” support and after a hearing on the matter, the Court will often make what is known as a Pendente Lite (pending litigation) order, which is a temporary order. Because this is a temporary order, the Court, for expediency’s sake, can and usually does base its order on information entered into and then calculated by one of two computer programs, Dissomaster or Xspouse. Both programs have been approved for use by the California Judicial Council.

Temporary support hearings move fast. The judge wants to see recent pay stubs, hear about basic expenses, run the numbers through the computer, and move on to the next case. Don’t expect a deep dive into your circumstances – that comes later.

A permanent support order is a different animal and is typically entered one of two ways. The first way is when the support request is calculated by the Court at a hearing or during trial. The other way is through an agreement called a stipulation, which is then made a binding Order of the Court. At trial, or in any setting where the Court is asked to make a permanent support order, the Court is prohibited from using the Dissomaster and Xspouse programs and must instead consider the numerous factors set forth in California Family Code § 4320.

This is where things get interesting. Without the computer programs, judges have to actually look at your specific situation. Your age, health, work history, what you gave up for the marriage – all of that finally matters.

The Gavron Warning – Pay Attention

Often when making a permanent support order, the Court will also issue what is known as a Gavron Warning. A Gavron Warning is a notice to the supported spouse that they must make a good faith effort to become self-supporting within a reasonable period of time, often one half of the life of the marriage. If the supported spouse fails to make that effort, they run the risk of having the court reduce or eliminate their spousal support award at the request of the payor spouse.

Don’t ignore this warning. We’ve seen supported spouses lose their support entirely because they didn’t take job training seriously or turned down reasonable employment. The court expects you to try, not just sit around collecting checks.

Why Permanent Support Is Usually Less

Typically, the support awarded in a permanent spousal support order will be substantially less than a Pendente Lite (temporary order) for a number of reasons. This catches people off guard all the time. They get used to the temporary amount and assume that’s what they’ll get permanently. Wrong.

The permanent calculation considers your ability to work, not just current income differences. If you haven’t worked in years but could reasonably get a job, the court factors that in. For the purposes of payment of income tax, spousal support is no longer a tax-deductible expense, nor can child support payments be deducted, either.

Long-Term Marriages Get Different Treatment

Family Code § 4320 sets forth several “factors” that must be considered by the Court when making a permanent support order. In practice, for a long-term marriage, which has been defined as a marriage that lasts ten (10) or more years, the Court will often award spousal support for at least one half the length of the marriage. Keep in mind that the 4320 factors will often have a direct effect on the amount and length of the support awarded, given that the stated policy of the State of California is for a supported spouse to become self-supporting within a reasonable period of time.

That ten-year mark is huge. Cross it, and you’re looking at potentially much longer support obligations. We’ve had clients miss this by months and seen how much it changes their cases.

When People Try to Game the System

There are occasions where a supported spouse will either refuse to work, intentionally work less hours or be unable to hold a job for any meaningful period of time either to avoid paying support, or in an attempt to receive more support. In those cases, we can ask the Court to “impute” income to the other party, based upon their bad faith actions and their true earnings ability.

The court isn’t stupid. If someone suddenly quits their executive job to become a part-time barista right before the divorce trial, judges notice. Same thing happens when people who should be working claim they can’t find anything. The court can assign them an income based on what they should be earning, not what they claim they’re earning.

Why Experience Matters Here

Properly calculating support can be tricky at times and working with a Certified Family Law Specialist can help ensure that the court makes the right support orders. Every case has quirks that can affect the numbers – bonuses, stock options, irregular income, second jobs, side businesses. Miss something important, and you could be stuck with the wrong support amount for years.

The difference between someone who handles spousal support cases occasionally and someone who does them every week shows up in the results. Small details in how income gets calculated or which expenses count can mean hundreds or thousands of dollars per month difference in support awards.

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Frequently Asked Questions

How do California courts calculate spousal support amounts?

Spousal support calculations depend on whether you're looking at temporary or permanent support, and the rules are completely different for each.

For temporary support during your divorce, judges use computer programs like Dissomaster or Xspouse. These programs look at both spouses' gross income, subtract certain expenses like health insurance and union dues, then spit out a number. It's pretty mechanical - plug in the numbers, get your answer.

But here's what trips people up: permanent support doesn't use those computer programs at all. Instead, judges have to consider specific factors listed in Family Code section 4320, including how long you were married, each person's age and health, what you each sacrificed for the marriage, and your ability to become self-supporting.

Income Sources: Everything counts as income - salary, bonuses, rental income, investment returns, even unemployment benefits. If you're getting money from somewhere, it goes into the calculation.

Common Adjustments: The paying spouse gets credit for health insurance premiums, required union dues, and support payments from previous relationships. These adjustments can make a significant difference in the final number.

Reality Check: Temporary support is often higher than permanent support because the permanent calculation considers your ability to work and become self-supporting. Don't assume your temporary amount will continue forever.

What determines the duration of spousal support in Orange County?

The length of your marriage is the biggest factor, but it's not the only thing that matters.

Short-Term Marriages (Under 10 Years): Support typically lasts about half the length of the marriage. So if you were married 6 years, expect support for roughly 3 years. The court wants the lower-earning spouse to have time to get back on their feet, but not indefinitely.

Long-Term Marriages (10+ Years): This is where things change dramatically. For marriages lasting 10 years or longer, the court keeps jurisdiction over spousal support indefinitely. That doesn't mean it lasts forever, but it could potentially continue until retirement, remarriage, or death.

The Magic 10-Year Mark: That ten-year cutoff is huge. We've seen cases where someone married 9 years and 11 months gets treated very differently than someone married 10 years and 1 month. If you're close to ten years, the timing of your separation date matters.

Gavron Warning: Courts often tell supported spouses they need to make "good faith efforts" to become self-supporting. If you don't try to improve your situation - get job training, look for work, finish school - the court can reduce or end your support.

Modification: Support orders can be changed if circumstances change significantly. Job loss, serious illness, or major income changes can all be grounds for modification.

What happens if my financial situation changes after my divorce is final?

Spousal support can definitely be modified, but you need to show a significant change in circumstances that wasn't anticipated when the original order was made.

Valid Reasons for Modification:

  • Job loss or significant income reduction
  • Serious illness or disability
  • Retirement (but timing matters)
  • Substantial income increase for either party
  • Supported spouse's failure to become self-supporting
  • Changes in living expenses or needs

What Doesn't Usually Work: Courts won't modify support just because you don't like the amount or because you've found new expenses. The change has to be substantial and unexpected.

The Process: You'll need to file a motion with the court and provide financial documentation showing the changed circumstances. Both sides get to present evidence about why support should or shouldn't be modified.

Burden of Proof: Whoever wants the change has to prove why it's necessary. If you're asking for more support, you need to show why your needs have increased. If you want to pay less, you need to prove your ability to pay has decreased.

Timing Matters: Don't wait if your circumstances change significantly. The modification typically starts from when you file your motion, not from when the change actually occurred.

Retirement Considerations: Just hitting retirement age doesn't automatically end support. Courts look at whether retirement is reasonable, whether you have retirement income, and the supported spouse's ongoing needs.

What If My Ex Won't Work or Quits Their Job?

Yes, courts have tools to deal with people who try to manipulate their income for support purposes. It's called "imputing income," and judges use it more often than you might think.

When Income Gets Imputed: If someone quits a good job right before divorce proceedings, takes a lower-paying position to reduce support obligations, refuses to look for work when they're capable of working, or has a pattern of job-hopping to avoid stable income.

How It Works: The court assigns an income amount based on what the person should be earning, not what they're actually earning. This might be based on their previous salary, their education and work experience, or the prevailing wage for their profession in the area.

Evidence You'll Need: Pay stubs from previous jobs, evidence of job applications (or lack thereof), documentation of their qualifications and work history, and proof that suitable jobs are available in their field.

Common Scenarios: We see this with executives who suddenly become part-time consultants, professionals who claim they can only find minimum wage work, and people who start "looking for work" but never seem to find anything.

Limitations: The court can't force someone to work, but it can base support calculations on what they could earn if they tried. This protects against manipulation while recognizing that sometimes people genuinely can't work due to health issues or other legitimate reasons.

Getting Results: You'll need to file a motion asking the court to impute income and present evidence supporting your request. The other side gets to explain why their situation is legitimate.

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  • Default Divorce Judgment
  • Ending a Domestic Partnership
  • Annulment
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